The Religious Freedom law wending its way to the Indiana Governor's desk should have been easy for the Legislature to write. All they had to do is dig up some of the Jim Crow laws from the Deep and not so Deep South one hundred years ago.
It is a dumbshit law, no matter how much I agree with the underlying point that it's trying to make.
I'm tired of people filing lawsuits because some dumbass narrow-minded idiot uses a religious reason to deny service to someone who violates their sense of right and wrong. The dumbass narrow-minded idiot has a right to his opinion, and the last I looked his business wasn't owned by the government. A normal person thus dismissed would simply nod and walk away, and make it clear to everyone he met that the dumbass narrow-minded idiot was a bigot and should be boycotted out of business. That's his right, too. Then the free market can take over and either the shop stays in business or goes out of business, depending on what the market thinks.
Instead, today one goes to law because one's feelings got hurt. Well, fuck one. That's not the way it works, or at least it shouldn't be.
That said, I'll submit till my dying day that making a bad law to legitimize bigoted behavior is utter bullshit. I thought better of Pence before this.
You don't need to go back 100 years, just 20, to the DOMA that Democrats created and a Democrat president signed, with the approval of the ACLU. The Supreme Court said it only applies to federal government, not applicable downward as a cover-all, so it is up to the states to pass similar bills for state law. And so Indiana is the 19th state to do so, including Washington and Illinois, which aren't known for their conservative leanings. If you include state court rulings, then 31 states have a court ruling or legislature passed law just like this. Indiana is simply late for the parade. I see all of the opposition hasn't read the bill, hasn't seen the bull crap that led up to its creation, and hasn't followed its application in states where it has been law for a while.
Finally, finally, the GOP stops f*&^ing the blue collar working man out of his right to earn a decent living and instead focuses on principle and puts people ahead of the filthy lucre, allmighty dollar. They should get some praise for that. Tomorrow morning they'll go back to ramming a stick up the working man's butt in favor of the millionaires, but let me have one day in the sun where their stopped clock was right for a minute of the day. 99% of the time they take the votes of social conservatives and do nothing for them (note the Boehner block on the abortion bill in Congress that would've effectively stopped abortion after week 20). For once we got a little love back.
Why pass a law that according to reports is not used in other states and likely will not be used by business owners here either? And, if used to refuse service, will likely end in a lawsuit where the judge will toss the law under the 1964 Civil Rights Act or the 14th Amendment?
There is no right to not be offended. Don't like the sin? Too bad. Don't like being judged? Too bad.
We don't need the iron fist of government fixing problems. The invisible hand works much better
Personally, I think that without the Civil Rights Act and the Great Society, we'd be in a lot better position today than we are. Racial barriers were already being broken down by 1964 due to the fact that Brown v Board was decided in 1954. Desegregated schools have done more to normalize relations between the races than any civil rights law ever did, because it forced kids to interact across racial lines. Unfortunately, even 10 years on politicians could not see that this would be a multi-generational attitudinal swing, so they forced the issue by making, gee, bad law, just like the one we just passed.
Of course, Democrats conveniently forget that they were by and large AGAINST the Civil Rights Act...and that among them were some of the biggest bigots in American history.
Brown v Board of Ed was largely ineffectual in the first decade. It necessitated unfortunate teeth, such as busing, to achieve much of anything. And public education s almost as segregated as it was 60 years ago.
I guess they're done %^&*$#! with education for a day or two so the might as well %^&* with something else.
ReplyDeleteIt is a dumbshit law, no matter how much I agree with the underlying point that it's trying to make.
ReplyDeleteI'm tired of people filing lawsuits because some dumbass narrow-minded idiot uses a religious reason to deny service to someone who violates their sense of right and wrong. The dumbass narrow-minded idiot has a right to his opinion, and the last I looked his business wasn't owned by the government. A normal person thus dismissed would simply nod and walk away, and make it clear to everyone he met that the dumbass narrow-minded idiot was a bigot and should be boycotted out of business. That's his right, too. Then the free market can take over and either the shop stays in business or goes out of business, depending on what the market thinks.
Instead, today one goes to law because one's feelings got hurt. Well, fuck one. That's not the way it works, or at least it shouldn't be.
That said, I'll submit till my dying day that making a bad law to legitimize bigoted behavior is utter bullshit. I thought better of Pence before this.
You don't need to go back 100 years, just 20, to the DOMA that Democrats created and a Democrat president signed, with the approval of the ACLU. The Supreme Court said it only applies to federal government, not applicable downward as a cover-all, so it is up to the states to pass similar bills for state law. And so Indiana is the 19th state to do so, including Washington and Illinois, which aren't known for their conservative leanings. If you include state court rulings, then 31 states have a court ruling or legislature passed law just like this. Indiana is simply late for the parade. I see all of the opposition hasn't read the bill, hasn't seen the bull crap that led up to its creation, and hasn't followed its application in states where it has been law for a while.
ReplyDeleteFinally, finally, the GOP stops f*&^ing the blue collar working man out of his right to earn a decent living and instead focuses on principle and puts people ahead of the filthy lucre, allmighty dollar. They should get some praise for that. Tomorrow morning they'll go back to ramming a stick up the working man's butt in favor of the millionaires, but let me have one day in the sun where their stopped clock was right for a minute of the day. 99% of the time they take the votes of social conservatives and do nothing for them (note the Boehner block on the abortion bill in Congress that would've effectively stopped abortion after week 20). For once we got a little love back.
Why pass a law that according to reports is not used in other states and likely will not be used by business owners here either? And, if used to refuse service, will likely end in a lawsuit where the judge will toss the law under the 1964 Civil Rights Act or the 14th Amendment?
ReplyDeleteThere is no right to not be offended. Don't like the sin? Too bad. Don't like being judged? Too bad.
We don't need the iron fist of government fixing problems. The invisible hand works much better
Personally, I think that without the Civil Rights Act and the Great Society, we'd be in a lot better position today than we are. Racial barriers were already being broken down by 1964 due to the fact that Brown v Board was decided in 1954. Desegregated schools have done more to normalize relations between the races than any civil rights law ever did, because it forced kids to interact across racial lines. Unfortunately, even 10 years on politicians could not see that this would be a multi-generational attitudinal swing, so they forced the issue by making, gee, bad law, just like the one we just passed.
ReplyDeleteOf course, Democrats conveniently forget that they were by and large AGAINST the Civil Rights Act...and that among them were some of the biggest bigots in American history.
Well I'll be damned.
ReplyDeleteBrown v Board of Ed was largely ineffectual in the first decade. It necessitated unfortunate teeth, such as busing, to achieve much of anything. And public education s almost as segregated as it was 60 years ago.
ReplyDelete